This isdue to many fortuitous happenings for the Boeing aircraft: 1. The Lancaster force required … is heavier and the plane has to fly faster to achieve takeoff speed thinner material when you do to achieve the same stress goals. to Berlin, not 2,000 lb. Showing 1-58 of 58 messages. It did not help when it was revealed that 55 Liberators were lost on that single raid. 4 x Rolls-Royce Merlin XX V12 water-cooled, inline piston engines developing 1,280 horsepower each driving three-bladed propeller units. of only seeing their bit of the world - they were not allowed to roam The location of the future 15th Air Force combat operations, Afrika, also was not very good - the press corps did not like the primitive conditions. Andy Rooney related this as did Walter Cronkite who went on the same mission that the only one of the seven war correspondents that went on that bombing mission who did not come back was in a B-24. down the enemy planes. Helicopter widths include main rotor diameter. 100 B-24s fly and they lose 3 a/c so there is a 3% loss rate - 50 B-17s fly and they lose 3 then it is 6% loss rate. Coming along five years after the B-17, the B-24 possessed an initial advantage. A B-24 flew faster, farther, longer with a 3 ton larger load than the B-17s ever could (and if a B-17 tried to fly as far as a B-24 then they lost 1/2 their bomb bay for the extra bomb bay fuel tank). There were more Hurricanes in the Battle of Britain and they shot down a higher percentage of Germans that their ratio would suggest than the Spitfires - but he Spits got all the press! the Consolidated B-24 Liberator? The B-17 and the B-24 inevitably invited comparison. Also, the military people had the disadvantage They informed Fink that he was to be project engineer for the new design and that a wooden mockup was to be ready in two weeks. The war correspondent's The B-24 presents a problem permitted uses of photos on the copyright and disclosure statement. press! For further details, I suggest you google for B-17vs. The B-17 Flying Fortress vs. the B-24 Liberator—veterans of air campaigns in Europe and the Pacific have long debated the merits of these aircraft. cheers The two U.S. heavy bombers of World War II that flew in the 8th, 11th, 5th, 15th Air Forces were designed years apart, using different aeronautical ideas, because of competition to get military contracts. Part of this was the handling characteristics that an round But the Liberator disintegrates after it gets shot at. get close to the USA. They tried it in 1943 and it was just too difficult. come at a price. NOTES: Shapes below depict aircraft from wingtip-to-wingtip / nose-to-tail assuming aircraft are being viewed from overhead perspective (the nose pointing towards the top of the screen). There is less need to cross-brace and you need I don't know how valid the figures would be, since obviously there was the difference between day bombing versus night bombing. Showing 1-58 of 58 messages. The B-17 carried on average, less bomb tonnage per mission as reflected in the total tonnage divided by the number of missions flown! The Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress is a four-engined heavy bomber developed in the 1930s for the United States Army Air Corps (USAAC). Know which one I'd rather be in. Military politics ensured that Taking pictures of aircraft there are some angles that no matter It took time and the loss of thousands of aircrew to modify the B-17 into something that could survive, (barely) in German airspace if sufficiently escorted. is heavier and the plane has to fly faster to achieve takeoff speed It also ha Not until mid 1943 did enough B-24s The B17 has more guns but the B24 is faster and has a cheaper repair. This question often comes up at meetings, discussion boards, andother locations where aircraft oriented people gather and talk abouthistory, tactics, and flying characteristics of planes. Notes: Some entries contain '0', 'not available', or an 'NA' value. The B-17 was developed out of the first world war and the military theory developed from Germany's use of the 4 engined Gotha bombers. ... stabilizers shot completely away—and one famous Liberator suffered the loss of both when it was struck by a British Lancaster bomber, yet it returned to the United States for a War Bond Tour. The reporter had to be approved - and the military only nations never thought of designs with this type of range (except Russia).

- and at the end of the supply chain - they naturally choose England. B-24 crews are loyal to their airplane. get to the UK to fly missions (and the first dozen or so flown were and just in cruise. The design team choose a wing - the 'Davis' wing - that is thinner painted in the colors of a 5th Air Force B-24 that flew in the bomber and that mean the B-17. When you look at overall total sorties then the loss rate for B-24s are lower than the B-17. The 10 MPH difference in formation cruise is the main reason why they never flew in the same combat formation. during the Second World war the B-17 is the most well known. the B-17. What was the survival rate for b17/b24s vs Lancasters in WW2 Just curious, since the British claim that the night raids were more effective vs the American daylight raids, you seem to see a ton of movies about American Carnage in the skies, but almost nothing on the british. They just looked better in flight and on the ground in photographs. Oh, and it was made of wood. The Fortress is to the Spitfire like the Liberator is to the Hurricane. B17/Mosquito bomb load India Four Two , Yes, in the dark, solo, below radar, (i.e. The B-17 was also an easier aircraft to fly in formation. The local MILITARY press person did a lot of work to let people With a combined closing speed of 500 mph both sides had only seconds to make their fire count. Get an answer for 'Compare and contrast the B-17 and B-29 bombers during World War II as far as their effectiveness and protection.' B-17s flew at 155 indicated in formation while B-24s flew at 165 indicated. So the B-24s are flying 15 MPH faster than a B-17 at the same altitude. philosophies. Different planes can be designed for same purpose but with different of weight on what horsepower available - and that mean a thick wing This is due to the way the two emergency exits from the a/c were laid out. protection of the mainland so it did not matter. The B24 is a higher tier bomber which means it gets into higher tier games and it also seems its elevators get shot out very easily. The movie “12 O’Clock High” (based upon Col Armstrong’s management style when he took over the 306th on 4 Jan 1943, with the actual history almost written verbatim as it occurred into the movie during the inspection by General Eaker) and the TV show of the same name, add in the “Memphis Belle”1943 movie, and the 1992 movie version publicity has made the 12,726 Boeing B-17s were produced (6,981 By Boeing itself, 5,745 by VEGA & Douglas) and are much more well known than the 18,188 B-24s that were produced.
The B-24 design is very war functional. You had only two: one in front for 6 men to exit from, and 1 in the rear for the tail gunner. Completely different planes designed for same purpose but with different design philosophies. in combat that their deployed ratio would suggest (80% of planes shot down for 60% It will give you a real appreciation of the job the flyers did in WWII. One of syscoms largest arguments is the armament of the B-24 compared to the Lancaster. B-17 being a thicker wing needed more - stronger - material to support ... Consolidated B-24 Liberator’s had a tendency to explode when hit but the B-17 rarely did. The DeHavilland Mosquito. combat -- in the Philippines. 155 MPH indicated at 21,000’ at 55 below equals a true airspeed of 205 MPH over the ground. what you do the photo almost always works. So the B-24s are flying 15 MPH faster than a B-17 at the same altitude. The problem with being bigger is, of course, you are easier to hit and thus more shells could actually hit a B-24 than a B-17 in the same amount of firing time of a Luftwaffe pilot. could not get to the same altitude as a B-17. Each plane is different - butconsidering all the Hollywood movies ever made about the air combatduring the Second World war the B-17 is the most well known. It was the first well known bomber in The Stirling made a pretty good glider tug. Not enough enemy It was stated by the leading air war theorists in the world - Lord Trenchard in Britain and Gen. Giulio Douhet of Italy - and believed the private firms to publish and centered around the individuals. The first one built made its maiden flight on September 21, 1942. .30 caliber machine guns that fighters had on them (click to read) The Consolidated B-24 Liberator was more advanced and versatile than the Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress, but we provide a fuller breakdown. wings. The B-26 Marauder had the lowest loss rate in the ETO - but then they SELDOM went more than 120 miles behind the front line and thus were almost never intercepted. when it was As a percentage by mission there is almost no difference in the loss rate between B-24s and B-17s in the same timeframe. The teething problems were well known and so the press people flying wanted to fly on an aircraft that had less operational problems – so most went on B-17s. Framed World War II Pictures from Crossroads For Sales on Amazon . of war in China and Europe likely, looked at the bomb load, the distance One person in the passageway behind the radio operator blocking it, or damage / fire there, and no one got out. “Early in January, 1939 Fleet called designer Frank W. Fink into his office and told him they had decided to build a better bomber than Boeing's B-17. The bigger the plane the heavier it is and to save glass is flat - no distortion = better photos! you have to work harder to get better pictures. by Sam McGowan. Boeing company came up with a design - using 1932 technology - to Material presented throughout this website is for historical and entertainment value only and should not to be construed as usable for hardware restoration, maintenance, or general operation. low level Ploesti oil refinery mission did the B-24s get any real B-17 vs Lancaster vs Mosquito vs B24... jt: 1/30/05 11:10 AM: ... We had thousands of B-17 and B-24 flightcrews and groundcrews already in full operational swing, … and find homework help for other History questions at eNotes (They had alarm bells and lights to signal the crew.). The airpower proponents also expected that they could target industries and cripple the enemies war effort though precision strikes on key targets (enemy aircraft plants, rail (transportation), electric, fuel, some key industries– think Schweinfurt -- and general war production factories) enough to disrupt the whole economy that it would make them unable to wage war. other locations where aircraft oriented people gather and talk about English; Deutsch; The majority of three thousand officers and enlisted men in Eight Air Force heavy bomber crews tallied between 28 May and 5 June 1944 said their aircraft – be they B-17s or B-24s – were the best for the job. Going at 165 MPH comes out to 220 MPH. It's name? In terms of bomb-load, and the physical size of the bombs carried, nothing else made prior to 1944 could compare with the Lancaster. The simple fact is the Lanc was built by twice as many factories as the B24, yet only produced less than 1/2 of them. The happier the press was the better the press reports were. diversions due to 'teething problems' that all planes go through). One of the most frequently discussed arguments to come out of World War II is which was the “better” bomber, the Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress or the Consolidated B-24 Liberator?The argument began in bars and service clubs, where crew members from the two types met while off duty during the war, and has continued ever since. edged wing provides but just by their function they also LOOK GOOD. Other On the other hand, the B24 demanded constant attention causing extreme fatigue in pilots on long missions. A B-24 flew faster, farther, longer with a 3 ton larger load than the B-17s ever could (and if a B-17 tried to fly as far as a B-24 then they lost 1/2 their bomb bay for the extra bomb bay fuel tank). a less strong wing. B-17 vs B-24. Which is better? The B-17 is full of them. 1) B17 2) B29 3,4)B24, Lancaster (tie) 3&4 tie cuz they're damn ugly flew in Aluminum Overcast B17 a couple years ago, quite a ride. He had 14 days to create the mock up, while Fleet and Laddon went to Washington to sell the new bomber to the U.S. Army.”, From: http://www.fourays.org/features_2005/great_combat_aircraft/b_24/b24_1.htm. wanted so many so that they were easier to censor the storeis. The British Avro Lancaster bomber shares first place with the American Boeing B-17 as the best-known heavy bomber of World War II. the same design traits (except the Avro Lancaster and Boeing B-29). to the photograph), the plane is "boxy" so that means as a photographer Coming along five years after the B-17, the B-24 possessed an initial advantage. This is more common with conceptual, experimental, and x-plane designs. I talked The press corps in England also got off to a bad start with B-24s. 10 MPH does not seem like much of a difference but at ALTITDUE that 10 MPH can translate into an extra 10 to 30 MPH TRUE airspeed difference - thus they get there faster and are subject to less time over the enemy territory - making them safer. press. Do any trustworthy figures exist that compare the loss rate of Lancs versus B-17s in the ETO? B-24 crews are loyal to their airplane. The "Military Factory" name and MilitaryFactory.com logo are registered ® U.S. trademarks protected by all applicable domestic and international intellectual property laws. by all - that the heavy bomber would be always get through and be able to destroy wanted so many so that they were easier to censor the storeis. Now if a press person had a choice of going to England Really this is the most underestimated piece of machinery ever. The B-17 design team then had to use a wing that would lift a LOT B-17 vs B-24. which limited its high altitude ceiling since it used the same horsepower as the Fortress - thus with a combat load it Very light appears to be bomb loads closer to those carried by the B-25 and B-26. The B-17 Flying Fortress designed by Boeing or Follow our updates on Facebook or Twitter The H.G. Now back to the production details. The B-24 Liberator is treated the same way. 55,000 bomber command crew members were killed during the war - and often the whole crew would die in a Lancaster. Quoting Xv408 : Just to be contentious, there was a certain other … that generates a LOT of lift - but the top speed is sacrificed for 0.5% Overall losses of B24/B17 c. 3% (and the Lancaster, Halifax etc). design was rapidly evolving. The thinner wing by 1930 design standards means fighters could be around from enemy carriers and the original 11 .50 4 x Wright Cyclone R-1820-97 radial piston engines developing 1,200 horsepower each driving three-bladed propeller units. Return to World War II Planes Page. However, in the ETO, the B-24 operated with the B-17 which constrained the aircraft's operating speed. The - beer, women, high level command ranks to talk with, and easy access to the One main feature of most every air racing The Consolidated B-24 Liberator landing at Aurora, Oregon in 2004 considering all the Hollywood movies ever made about the air combat low-level), and carrying specialized electronic counter measures tuned for the day that were NOT available to the U.S. 8th Air Force en-mass, the Mosquito was, indeed, a formidable weapon. It consumed a huge amount of resources and put 10 men at risk and apart Been watching a f British videos over the break and I started to wonder what Bomber played the more important role in liberating Europe during WW2, the Liberator (B24), the Flying Fortress (B17) or the Avro Lancaster? There was nothing particularly smart about the B17 or B24. c. 0.5% Overall losses of B24/B17 c. 3% (and the Lancaster, Halifax etc). If any dimensional values are "NA" in the database then the presented shapes may appear skewed. South Pacific. - and at the end of the supply chain - they naturally choose England. due to many fortuitous happenings for the Boeing aircraft: When you consider that almost EVERY Hollywood movie ever has the B-17 as the star (one exception is “Sole Survivor” with Richard Basehart based upon the “Lady Be Good” B-24 discovered in Libya in 1956) the Flying Fortress is the most well known World War II bomber to the worldwide public. caliber guns would easily defend off a plane attacking with just four Aft of the bomb bay the B24 had more room, although the staggered waist gun stations in the B17 was an improvement. extreme distance was necessitated by the oceans around the USA. The power of the engines available dictated this thick wing design. When Fink asked what the new bomber looked like, he was told that this was to be a completely new project and the design hadn't even reached the basic drawing stage. The B-17 Flying Fortress vs. the B-24 Liberator—veterans of air campaigns in Europe and the Pacific have long debated the merits of these aircraft. It could haul 18000 lbs. B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies B-17 Vs. B-24. However, the narrower waist of the B17 gave the crew less room to stand and move about. when compared to the B-17 but generates more lift. All loss rates are miss-leading. The B17 tended to be warmer forward of the bomb bay as long as the heating system was properly maintained. The bombers wing is more lift efficient at a slower speed in thinner air. Please direct all other inquiries to militaryfactory AT gmail.com. know what was going on - but all THEIR articles were at the mercy of in it. Most were in England. "The Memphis Belle" propaganda movie made in 1943 had only B-17s weight you design to just the specs - and no extra parts since every And for our British friends, yes I recognize the value of the Lancaster and the Halifax bombers.

MODERN AIR FORCES. to one army combat photographer from the 15th AF and he transferred have gotten the lion share of the credit - but he Spits got all the All written content, illustrations, and photography are unique to this website (unless where indicated) and not for reuse/reproduction in any form. And for our British friends, yes I recognize the value of the Lancaster and the Halifax bombers. I'm not sure which one can tank more hits because the damage modules are... strange. out of flying in B-17s into B-24s due to the boxiness of the B-24: he could not The B17 was a sedate aircraft and placed fewer demands on the flight deck crew. like comparing the Spitfire and the Hurricane: there were more Hurricanes in the ww2 Avro lancaster how did it compare with the b17,b24 and b29? Battle of Britain and they shot down a higher percentage of Germans He was then given a quick description of the new bomber - he would use the Model 31's Davis wing, its twin tail, four engine nacelles from the PBY Catalina and he would design a new fuselage with two bomb bays, each as large as the bomb bay of the B-17. the enemy factories, cities - people - and bring any war to a quick The Stirling made a pretty good glider tug. The father of a friend of mine was copilot on one of the B-17s that arrived over Hawaii during the Pearl Harbor attack. The Boeing B-29 was designed in 1940 as an eventual replacement for the B-17 and B-24. B-17 Bomber Flying Fortress – The Queen Of The Skies B-17 Vs. B-24. that lift. This ties into the the private / public nature of the press. By then most of the problems with the B-24 had been corrected but some design problems would always remain. B-24 carried a bigger bomb load, was a tad faster and had more range. that generates a LOT of lift - but the top speed is sacrificed for B-24 probably has better range than the Lancaster, and better payload than B-17. Wells movie "Things to Come" is centered around this premise. B-25 B-25 B-25 B-26 B-29 B-29. English; Deutsch; The majority of three thousand officers and enlisted men in Eight Air Force heavy bomber crews tallied between 28 May and 5 June 1944 said their aircraft – be they B-17s or B-24s – were the best for the job. Enola Gay Mephis Bell Statistics of Bomber of World War II. This is the theory of air victory, had asked the aviation industry for a plane that could carry even B-24 carried a bigger bomb load, was a tad faster and had more range. Just fewer of them. The toughness of the B-17 is legendary and it has captured the imagination of … It also meant that a few shells in the smaller wing cross section would cause the wing to fail faster than the much longer chord, and thicker, B-17 wing. the wing and thus had to be designed stronger. The most effective bomber of the war actually would be the Avro Lancaster - but I sure would not want to fly in them. A B-17 formation, dubbed a "Pulk" (herd) by the Germans, was an unnerving sight for the novice sight for fighter pilots. take a 1 1/2 tonne load over 400 miles to a target and return. Comparing the Avro Lancaster Four-Engined Heavy Bomber / Reconnaissance Aircraft against the Boeing B-17 Flying Fortress Four-Engined Heavy Bomber Aircraft. This was during the Battle of the Bulge. The Boeing B-29 was designed in 1940 as an eventual replacement for the B-17 and B-24. So in combat this helped (but mind you the Lancaster was in its turn about a 1/4 of the Mosquito so no perfection there) I know the Sherman thing has come up so many times now. Bomber Battle: B-17 Flying Fortress vs. B-24 Liberator (Who Wins?) We do not sell any of the items showcased on this site. This is why after initial try at flying in mixed formations they stopped it. The B-17 and the B-24 inevitably invited comparison. I personally love the B-24, hell my favorite bomber is the B-17 even though in my opinion the B-24 and the B-17 were not better than the Lancaster. You can always go back and, Four-Engined Heavy Bomber / Reconnaissance Aircraft. conclusion. of total planes in combat) which mean that the Hurricanes should Other areas of the plane – being bigger and with twin rudders – meant that the B-24 could take some hits and not be affected – pretty much like the B-17. and talk to many different groups. the Liberator creates an altitude design limit by using the efficient wing It did not help that the first few times that a non-military War Correspondent flew in a B-24 Group to targets which were also being visited by B-17s the B-24 they were in was shot down and they were killed or captured. While the B-17's got the glory, the B-24 was faster, with a greater bomb load at higher altitudes. A better statistical comparison would be B24 and Lanc stats for night missions and B24 and lanc stats for day missions. This functionality does wanted: a long range heavy load bomber. However, the Davis wing on goal was to tell a story using one photo. The B-17. personnel in Africa. The B-17 typically carried between 4-5,000 lb. needs to get up 10 feet or so to get a good view (not always possible), Perhaps the title should be changed to Lanc vs B24 vs L1011 And about the B17, B24 and SBD going into combat without self … Traffic to Competitors . This often meant the B-24s could take off later, fly the same distance to bomb a target, and were already on the ground before the 17s ever got back to the English shore. It was … Most of their stories ended You can always go back and Compare any two aircraft in our database. This question often comes up at meetings, discussion boards, and Updated June 26, 2020, 9:42 AM. >- B17 so loaded with gunners/guns/ammo that bombload very light. plane during the 1930 (and private planes too) was they all had rounded IIRC, about 4,000 pounds for the B-17 force Vs 7,800 pounds for the lancaster force total. Each Also did a walk thru of FiFi B29 of bombs, including the huge (22000 lb.!) The B-17 wing is a pre-war era design and is THICK for heavy lift efficiency. It also had a square access hatch in the bottom so he could take pictures right through it of planes and scenes below. Your selected aircraft are compared in side-by-side arrangement below. (Whether they're losses to combat or to all causes, I'll take either one.) Just to be contentious, there was a certain other bomber about in WW2, which had the range and payload of the B24 and B17, but about 100 mph on speed and just 2 crew. Overall losses of Mosquito? Having a thinner smaller wing meant that 20 and 30 mm cannon shells hitting it would not only cause problems on the side it hit but the shells would also cause about the same amount of damage to the opposite side. It sits on high tricycle landing gear arrangement so the photographer The B-17 also was designed during an era when air racing and aircraft it has a real thin wing that edge-on it disappears (does not give depth The B-24 design is very war functional. The human mind likes curves. the message was always in the public news. lancaster, or B-17 vs. Mosquito or several other combinations of the various a/c, as this topic gets done to death here about once a year or so. Your selected aircraft are compared in side-by-side arrangement below. Not Until the August 1, 1943 "Tidalwave" to targets in Germany, Japan, Italy, that would have to be hit to fulfill All were influenced by the ideas of the 1920s and early 30s that the “Bomber would get through” on its own without escort due to massed defensive firepower carried by them. men fighting, or going to a dusty desert where there is none of that take sharp photos through the curved glass of the B-17s - the B-24 more bombs and fly farther than what the B-17 could achieve. 150 different types by all sides). The Lancaster had better payload and I believe better range than the B-17. history, tactics, and flying characteristics of planes. Based on their reports, the press did not like Africa much. were being built to fly out and sink enemy ships before they could MANUFACTURERS. They just looked better in a photograph. This occurs since from 1944 onwards there were twice as many B-24s flying than B-17s and so the sheer numbers skew the overall WW II ETO percentage downwards. 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