With the switch for the light closed, the voltage feeds through the filament of the light bulb, and (loads) the neutral, but with a broken connection, and no complete path, the light does not work. If the circuit is tripped locate the problem within the circuit wiring. Don’t risk injury or your life. Question: The wall outlets in the kitchen of our Canyon Trail 5th wheel just quit working. You may also want to check the power transfer switch – but please heed the caution above. Threads: 13,790, Posts: 110,566 ... Tent Campers and Pop Ups (25 Viewing) Tent camper topics including repair, maintenance and features. A converter is a thing that charges the battery and makes the DC things work, just like your lights. The pilot light is responsible for triggering the fridge burners. Instead, take the RV to a repair center. Also try resetting all circuit breakers in the converter and make sure that they are good. We have several pages on our site which have addressed similar questions, so we suggest these as resources for troubleshooting the problem. Make sure the light bulb(s) are good and the correct for the specific light fixture. Answer: Is there anything else I can check that might fix the problem? If the running lights are not working, one of the first things to check is the presence of a blown fuse. There are 4 bulbs in all and none appear to be burnt out. Many Forest River RV lines are offered in both travel trailer and 5th wheel configurations and share similar designs and owner experiences. What else could be the problem? We checked all fuses, and they are fine. Make sure that each of tail lights is properly grounded. So look for that and consult any specifications or manuals you have for your RV. The main trailer connector grounds and the grounds for each of the lights need to be attached to clean and corrosion free bare metal surfaces. Hey guys,lately when I plug up the camper to my truck the upper running lights do not work, all others do,I tried to see if something needed cleaning in the plug but saw nothing,so I cleaned the terminals in side the plug with an emory board trimmed down but that didn't work,any suggestions. The only outlet working is the one to the microwave. Ground is achieved in one of two ways. The first thing we noticed was all the other lights were working fine. Would the problem be the LED’s are no longer working? Sometimes the wire filament inside the light bulb may be broken but when it is in certain positions it will make contact and light up, therefore a new bulb may be required. LED lighting was pretty much a no-brainer for us. One or two lamps not working is one thing, but no lamps working leads me to believe a fuse has blown on the trailer or there is an open in that circuit. Tools Required: Basic Electricians Pouch Hand Tools and Voltage Tester. Precaution: Identify the lighting circuit, turn it OFF and then Tag it with a Note before performing any wiring or inspections. 2 – Check GFI outlet and reset if needed after you turn on the generator. wire color code for 1978 pop up camper i got the turn signals and brake lights to work but cant get the running lights to work. Question: I had shore electric on every outlet working properly and then unplugged electric and turned the generator on and had no power to electrical outlets. I have an outdoor light that is not working right. They usually run the lights and everything else in series. That means the fridge will include a burner jet, also known as a pilot light. Troubleshooting. Check whether the connections to the converter are loose. Check your vehicle's plug configuration. Question: Where does one go to reset tripped outlets? If you do not have an owner’s manual, contacting the manufacturer may shed some light on the problem. We have the same trailer and those LED lights are hard wired not remote controlled. For instance, the light fixture above our sofa has a switch near the steps, this is also where our 12v on/off switch is located. The tail lights are different from the turn/stop lights and the tail lights are all wired to the same circuit as the rest of the running lights. Make sure the light bulb is the right size and type. I have flipped all the breakers and checked them with a meter. We have heard that a bad battery can cause similar problems. This current runs through the seven-way pin connector on a 5 th wheel or trailer. Consider these different types of light fixtures when planning your outdoor home lighting project. http://RVtravel.com An RVer wonders why only some of his 12-volt lights work while others don't. Next, mix one teaspoon of baking soda with 12 ounces of water. Like breakers, GFCI’s have a finite life span. Make the Correction:  Repair the damaged wire and clear the fault. If that is not possible then … If all of the lights are connected on the same circuit and one of the fuses is blown, then the lights will not work. The right side light does not work – no brake light or turn signal. Since you have a meter you should be able to trace the problem from the outlet or light back to its source. Be sure to check the light fixture specifications for specific lamp replacement information. But we can offer a few thoughts. It does have power at night as I can see that the lights are on, but it does not put out any power to make it bright. We sometimes have to do that to get the outlets to work. Answer: Sounds like you are not getting any voltage to the right side. Additional Comments: I love what I see here, I have been looking for an hour for advise, this is where I stopped. The outlet could be bad also. If you feel comfortable working on the power transfer switch, you can check the contacts to make sure that they are operating properly and that the contacts are not pitted or welded shut. I have provided the following links that lead to fully detailed information that will assist you with your electrical wiring project. Also, for most gfi outlets, it is difficult to see if it tripped – you need to push the reset button to know for sure. if the generator is running it should allow you to turn on your lights. I recommend running a jump wire from your frame to the last light in your sequence. He received a $600 estimate to fix the problem. Question: We have no power to outlets in our fifth wheel when using electric, but we do have it when we use the generator. If you have a GFI outlet reset that too. Answer: Without knowing the particulars on how your RV was setup or modified by the dealer and or former owner, it is difficult to provide a precise answer. With a q-tip or cloth, gently clean away the battery acid. Lights Stopped Working - posted in Problems, Solutions & After Market: During the first trip with our 21RS last week, some of the lights stopped working. The bunkhouse, bathroom, slide, and kitchen lights do not work. If the light does not work then most likely there is an internal fault within the light fixture. Check your vehicle's plug configuration. Hey guys,lately when I plug up the camper to my truck the upper running lights do not work, all others do,I tried to see if something needed cleaning in the plug but saw nothing,so I cleaned the terminals in side the plug with an emory board trimmed down but that didn't work,any suggestions. However, if you feel comfortable working on the converter you can check to make sure that all of the converter connections good and tight. Take your test light and find a good ground and use the probe to alternately touch each of pins inside the connector. All the outlets and exterior lights work fine. Usually this lights up the marker lights but this time it blew the fuse instantly. Physically inspect the light fixture for damage and replace the light fixture if necessary. Just be ready to dig deep in your pockets if it takes them a long time to find the source of the problem. I replaced the light with new fixture and it will not work. If that is not possible then the only option is to physically trace the wiring. If possible, swap out the LED bulb with a new one and see if the light begins to work. Application: Troubleshooting a Problem with an Outside Light Fixture Circuit. I replaced all 11 of the incandescent marker light bulbs with LED bulbs and I left the tail lights alone. These campers have fabric tent-like sleeping quarters, a hard shell camping cabin and roof and a retractable ceiling. A multimeter (see below) should show the voltage between the battery terminals between 13.4 and 14.5 volts DC; if not, the battery may be worn out and need replacement, or it may be low on water, or the converter may not be giving it any power. The exterior lights are still working. Trying to diagnose or fix one is a job best left to a qualified RV repair facility. On a travel trailer, the running lights are wired in parallel which means one bulb could go out and the rest will still work, but I’m guessing you have an open circuit … Can anyone help? This didn’t fix the issue. Any appliance or lamp plugged into the receptacle will not work either. We knew we wanted to make the switch, I just wasn’t sure what type of bulbs to go with. Kohree LED RV Porch Light Exterior Utility Light 12v Lighting Fixture, 320 Lumen, Replacement Lighting for RVs, Trailers, Campers, 5th Wheels. Your easiest solution is to replace it. Installing motion detector lighting fixtures provide security and energy savings and they can easily replace an existing exterior wall fixture. Hi Greg, Other clues would be your electronic devices do not work as well. To tell if your RV converter is bad, you will start to see warning signs. If you cannot reset a breaker or switch, then you may need to trace the electrical circuit(s) that are giving you trouble. "The lights at the back turn/stop work fine." 1 – Check generator circuit breaker (s) and reset if needed. Comment: This is not an uncommon issue – people would think that the company who made their coach would try and make things simple – but they do not. Disconnect your shore power, solar panels, and batteries. Once you have determined that you do have power at the source then you can move on to the circuit itself. First, your rig may have a panel of circuit breakers and/or a GFCI reset button. Because RV marker lights are typically located on the corners and other vulnerable spots on the vehicle prone to bumping and accidental damage, these components are likely to experience some wear and tear. Remove the cable between the truck and the trailer and make sure that the connections are clean and tight. Sometimes it’s even both. Coleman camper trailers are pop-up style rigs. Engage the right side blinker and disconnect the cable between the trailer and the truck. Trailer is a 2002 33 foot Montana. First I wired a single pole switch to the light box and this is correct because I verified the wiring using another light fixture and it works just fine. Everything you need to know: The RV Guide we wish we had 10 years ago, http://www.progressivedyn.com/troubleshooting_transfer_relay/, RV Noise Guide – Common RV Noises and RV Sounds. As to your question, there is for the most part two locations to look for any power issues: #1) the first location anyone should look is the fuse box, it could be a tripped breaker if 120 volts and a blown fuse if 12 volt is the issue, then #2) this is the one most if not all miss, THE GFI OUTLET. Any suggestions? This 12-Volt system’s power comes from the chassis batteries that power the stop lights, turn signals, and exterior lights of the RV. Outdoor Light Fixtures If not, it may be time to get an RV propane regulator replacement. We have a 2003 Coleman pop up Santa Fe with a World Friendship Co. Power Converter. CAUTION: Never work on a converter or a power transfer switch while it is connected to live power unless you are skilled in electrical trouble shooting. If none of the lights work then you probably have a converter problem. If no error can be detected here, the most likely cause is the LED Stripe Controller. Hi. For example: most CFL lamps do not work well in outdoor lights, however incandescent or halogen lamps generally work best. 4– Check for power leaving the generator. Is it the 12v lights or 110v? How to Repair Outdoor Light Problems, Typical Light Fixture Problems to Look for. Also make sure you have a good battery connected to the converter. All the lights are working just not getting 110 to the GFCI or … There are many types and styles of outdoor lighting. This current runs through the seven-way pin connector on a 5 th wheel or trailer. The first thing we checked was that the switch was on. If the running lights are not working, one of the first things to check is the presence of a blown fuse. Hook up your trailer and connect the trailer light harness. Thanks, Dan I have a 1997 Coleman Santa Fe popup camper. In addition to the cabin and shell, the trailers have kitchen sinks, toilets and full electric systems. Best bet is to pull the fixture and do a good look over and test for electrical current there also. Have 1998 Safari Sahara, the gfi plug in kitchen losses power but does not trip breaker on plug or throw any breakers, and comes back on after 10 or 15 minutes. Double check all the wiring connections and make sure wiring splices are made correctly using the right connector. If any of these terms seem foreign to you, then please do not attempt to do this. These campers have fabric tent-like sleeping quarters, a hard shell camping cabin and roof and a retractable ceiling. The fixtures can go bad pretty easily if the camper has had water intrusion. Dave, Electrical Questions and Electrical Answers, Boy Gets a Big Surprise From a Tesla Roadster, Replace a Switch with a Switch and Outlet. In addition to the cabin and shell, the trailers have kitchen sinks, toilets and full electric systems. All of our electrical outlets have lost power, but everything else is fine. Or do you mean "the tail lights and the turn/stop lights work fine." Some light fixtures within an RV can have switches located on a control panel. In tracing wiring, the objective is to identify any circuit breakers, a tripped GFCI outlet, or a loose wire. Test the light fixture. You will be working with water, so you want to protect yourself and your coach from electrocution. It shows how to diagnose power transfer switch problems. Coleman camper trailers are pop-up style rigs. Answer: It could be a number of things that is causing the problem. Wait a few minutes, and the pressure regulator will reset itself. If you still do not have power at your outlets then you will need to take your 5th wheel to a professional to resolve your power issue. The fact that some of the 12 volt lights also quit working seems to indicate that something cut/disturbed the wires both on the 110 volt and 12 volt side. For a motorized RV, the power is generated from batteries that are connected to the alternator exactly like your car. Two types of a trailer wiring tester. If you have wiring diagrams it will be of great help. I have an outdoor light that is not working right. If contacting the manufacturer does not help then try asking the RV dealer or the former owner from whom you bought the rig. I contacted Derek at Coleman Pop Up Parts for advice. If you cannot trace the wiring then the next best course is to run new wiring (I know it might be a pain). Electrical Question: How do I fix an outdoor light that is not working right? If it has not been replaced, then based on the age of the unit I’d look to replace it. Locate the circuit breaker which provides power to the light switch and make sure it is not tripped. More about Types Of Outdoor Garden Lighting. However, this must be done with caution and armed with all the tools at your disposal. Plus i have pushed the reset button on the GFCI plug near the bathroom sink – it is working. Your transfer switch my be different but the procedures should be the same. I am pretty sure the camper does not have a fuse box. Background: Mike, a Handyman from Princeton, Minnesota. Your RV has two separate electrical systems: a 12-volt DC electrical system and a 120-volt AC system. Outdoor Light Fixtures Electrical Question: How do I fix an outdoor light that is not working right? Make the Correction: Repair the damaged wire and clear the fault. This 12-Volt system’s power comes from the chassis batteries that power the stop lights, turn signals, and exterior lights of the RV. So if you have modern wiring that goes to that same color in the camper, you may not have that function work on the camper lighting. Answer: Here are a few thoughts. Your problem my be in one of the following: the converter, your power cord, the wires that connect your power cord to the converter, or the power transfer switch. Otherwise you will have to take it in to a repair place. When we are plugged into electric the outlets in the camper work but the lights do not. Test for power at the breaker then follow the circuit to each outlet looking for a break in the circuit or a bad outlet. On the 7-Way connector, check to make sure there is no corrosion built up where the wires attach. For a motorized RV, the power is generated from batteries that are connected to the alternator exactly like your car. So you all do not have to read every post to find out what the problem was, the camper has 13 lights that light up when the running lights turn on and it was just too much for the 20 amp fuse. Which is it. If all the lights appear dim or you have no lights at all, check the trailer light harness at the tow vehicle. I know that the new light fixture works hard wired to an outlet, so the fixture works. Dave’s Reply: Thanks for your electric wiring question Mike. If it were our rig, we would definitely consult the owner’s manual and wiring schematic specific to our RV. Reset the circuit breaker. You have to look at all the gfi outlets as the company most likely has it set up so that when a gfi trips in a kitchen it will kill the outlets in the lower part of the coach, and if in the bath it could kill all the outlets in the upper half of the coach. Any ideas? We sometimes have to do that to get the outlets to work. We took it out this weekend for the first time in a few months, and both interior celing lights were not working. Any thoughts on why this might be happening? We have changed the bulb but still nothing. Check the fuse on the converter. The only interior lights that work are the two main ceiling lights. My walk through was not the greatest, and I don't see anything in the manual about the lights. One RV, Two Electrical Systems. Some of these campers with the funny 6, 7, or 8 pin square connectors use a completely different set of colors for the wires. 2 – Check GFI outlet and reset if needed after you turn on the generator. Pull up a chair around the fire and introduce yourself. White Base, Clear and Amber Lenses Included 4.7 out of 5 … I tested all the outlets with a tester and got nothing except “open ground” reading on 1 outlet. Skill Level: Intermediate to Advanced – Best performed by a Licensed Electrician. If all of the above is OK and you still do not have power at the outlets then the problem may involve your power transfer switch. If all the lights appear dim or you have no lights at all, check the trailer light harness at the tow vehicle. Question: The TV outlet and a couple other outlets and a couple lights just quit working all at once. Issue #1: The pilot light keeps burning out. I would try a few simple things first. Check the controlling switch to make sure it is good, replace if necessary. Locate the circuit breaker which provides power to the light switch and make sure it is not tripped. RV marker lights are required by law to be found and functional at the front, side and back on all tow trailers, RVs and motorhomes. Any ideas? If you do not have an owner’s manual, contacting the manufacturer may shed some light on the problem. You will have to identify the power source for the circuit to determine if you have power to the circuit. 1 – Check generator circuit breaker(s) and reset if needed. Often the fixtures use the mounting hardware as a ground, but there are times when a ground wire will need to be added to that hardware to give you a bare metal to metal ground connection so the lights will work properly. So as you see, if a gfi issue – it is not just that outlet. Hook up your trailer and connect the trailer light harness. It has worked since I installed it, but all of a sudden, it doesn’t illuminate anymore. If the circuit is tripped locate the problem within the circuit wiring. In the first case, separate wires come out of each tail light assembly and are attached to a metal frame. Trailer tail lights not working? I'm sorry, but you will need to talk to an RV Tech to fix this, it is quite complicated. However, if you feel handy and are very comfortable working with live power circuits, here is a link that might help: http://www.progressivedyn.com/troubleshooting_transfer_relay/. To do this you will need a continuity tester/test light (such as a neon tester, electrostatic wand, volt ohmmeter, three-prong outlet tester) and a lot of confidence on working with a live electrical circuit. Plug in the camper to 110V and the power converter will recharge the battery (or, if you're in the middle of a camping trip and no 110V outlets are available, hook-up jumper cables to your car battery and idle the engine for a while to recharge the battery). Estimated Time: Depends on personal level experience, ability to work with hand tools and electrical troubleshooting skills. If all of the lights are connected on the same circuit and one of the fuses is blown, then the lights will not work. A more common case scenario presupposes ground to be provided through the bolts of the tail light assembly. This is for a 26ft TrailCruiser by TrailLite. Another thought is that the wiring could be loose and tightening the connections might solve your problem, but my opinion is that it has reached its useful lifespan. Answer: It seems hat you have a wiring problem where a connection has gotten loose or cut – either on the ground, or less likely, the positive side. Especially the connector between cable and LED strip has to be checked, because this connector is very sensitive. Have a helper stand back to see if the running lights, stoplights and blinkers are working properly. If you are seeing your lights dimming, your converter could be in trouble. Have a helper stand back to see if the running lights, stoplights and blinkers are working properly. Two types of a trailer wiring tester. Another indicator is your refrigerator having a hard time maintaining its temperature. If the turn signals are not working, locate the fuse block that contains the circuit for them. As you can tell, I am frustrated and would appreciate some assistance. I have an LED exterior light with dusk/dawn detector that I installed. If the turn signals are not working, locate the fuse block that contains the circuit for them. Threads: 35,278, Posts: 416,258 Sub-Forums : 3 – Recheck and reset (if needed) all your 120 Volt breakers in the main house panel after you turned on the generator. I’ve always had good experiences with Coleman Pop Up Parts, and they have a great selection of interior camper lighting. Any ideas? I replaced the GFCI and double 15 amp breaker. Your interior lights are the easiest indicator. I hope this helps, Once this is done, you can ignite a propane appliance, and it should work properly. Most likely, the 12V side of your charger/ power converter is not working.But before making such a conclusion, you should check and confirm that no circuit breaker is tripped, no fuses are blown and there are no loose connections on the converter. The test light should alternately go on and off – if not your problem is in the connector. If contacting the manufacturer does not help then try asking the RV dealer or the former owner from whom you bought the rig. But it is possible that it is a ground issue. I was able to determine it was definitely a trailer wiring issue and not a problem in the truck by putting a fuse across pin 3 and 4 on the 7 way plug. There must be a solid electrical connection to the contact surfaces of the strip. These will run on propane gas or electricity depending on the model. First I wired a single pole switch to the light box and this is correct because I verified the wiring using another light fixture and it works just fine. About a month or so ago the problem started to get really bad and it was happening far more often. Camper refrigerators are not like your fridge back home. there is six wires on camper white yellow black orange green brown and I … read more Any help would be great! 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